A CPU can bottleneck any GPU in gaming if you run a powerful GPU alongside a weak CPU,
What that means is the CPU can slow down the FPS you would otherwise get if you were running a more powerful CPU alongside your powerful GPU.
The result is lag in some parts of the game or generally low FPS.
If you find that you have a CPU Bottleneck, the best way to deal with it is to try and move as much of the game workload off the CPU and on to the GPU.
This might sound counter intuitive but if you do have a lot of GPU power and not that much CPU power what you do is increase the game resolution and graphics settings.
To show you what that looks like i have setup a test.
I disabled 2 of the cores on my CPU and down-clocked it to 1.2Ghz on each remaining core, set BF3 to relativity low settings, (1680 x 1050 resolution and medium GFX settings)
As you can see the CPU usage is very high at over 92 %, while GPU usage is only 50%, the FPS are also very low for that setting @ 62 FPS.
That is a CPU Bottleneck, the computer is only as powerful as it's weakest component, in this case the CPU is junk and dragging everything down to it's level.
The next image is with the game at exactly the same settings, but with the CPU running at what i normally run it at.
With 6 cores @ 4.1Ghz the FPS have more than doubled and the GPU is running at 98% while the CPU at 62%.
No bottleneck there.
I have had to under-clock my Thuban CPU a lot to give you that illustration.
But lets say your running something like a 3.2 / 3.0Ghz AMD Phenom II x4 (Deben) and an overclocked 7870 or anything more powerful.
If your screen can only manage 1680 x 1050 and your running medium settings.
Your CPU may still bottleneck, as you can see the GPU is only at 85% and the CPU is quite high at 86%
So let's set the GFX to Ultra.
Now the GPU is up to 95% and the CPU down a bit to 81%.
Or if you turn up the resolution to 1080P with the previous medium settings.
The CPU is still high at 88% but the GPU is still up to 90%
Let's try Ultra at 1080P
CPU 82%, GPU 94%
Now we will overclock the CPU.
@ 3.6Ghz the GPU is at 95% (up 10% from 3.0Ghz) but the CPU is still high
With the game GFX maxed at 1080P
Now the GPU is working fully @ 98%, but the CPU is still high.
Resolution and game setting maxed.
The CPU for the first time is starting to drop off, now at 77%
Now i'm going to turn my other 2 cores on again to give me 6 @ stock (3.2Ghz)
The GPU is at a high 96% and the CPU has dropped to 65%
Next with the CPU running at 4.1Ghz
So there we have it, if you have a strong GPU and are getting lower than expected FPS, turn up the game settings as much as you can, it may actually help with low performance.
Also try to overclock your CPU as much as you can.
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ReplyDeletei have phenom ll x2 550 NON BE and sadly... i cna't overclock it!
ReplyDelete1. my processor is locked multipler
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in far cry 3 my processor usage is 100% ALWAYS and gpu usage is around 18%-25% on low 1366X768 fps...a round 20
and next in ultra 1366X768 the processor usage still 100% but gpu usage around 40%-52% and fps at 25...
i don't know how to improve it... overclock the gpu? i have done it
but when iw ant to OC my cpu it's locked.. -_- it's sucks
Your getting improved performance by turning the game quality settings up. off loading from the CPU to the GPU. But, as you say your CPU is very weak. there are limits as to where this will work, and you are well under them, unfortunately there is nothing more you can do.
DeleteThe only advice i can give you is to try and find an unlocked Phenom II x4, or it doesn't even need to be unlocked, just having more powerful cores and twice as many will improve performance greatly.
The sort of CPU's i'm talking about http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-pib.aspx make sure its an 'x4' or better. they should fit your motherboard, while AM3, they are AM2+ and AMD3+ Compatible.
If you tell me your motherboard type i can advise you better, also what type of RAM do you have?
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ReplyDeleteneed some help
my specs are amd phenomx4 9850 125watt 2.5 ghz
4gb ddr2
gtx660 2gb
and asrock n68c-gs fx mobo
tried the oveclock but didnt work, pc crashes every time
getting very low fps in watch dogs ,even in low settings
genius help is appreciated
watch dogs requires at least 6gb ram
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